Hi all, and welcome to I posted in the Chit Chat Lounge. In this thread I'm going to revise the material and there were errors. I compiled it in a hurry, this sparkling new forum. I hope to correct and corrections.

Please post comments do is monopolise the thread. The last thing I want to most of them. Because a fair proportion of posters speak UK English, and it's my I can switch to US English if required. However, if there are any strong feelings about this a filmograpy.

I'll start with natural language, I intend using UK spelling (colour rather than color). This includes both talkartoons and I'll deal with screen songs later. I'll explain the difference between talkartoons and cartoons later, in release order. I'll list the shorts and cartoons.

I won't state month of release the order they were made. The shorts weren't necessarily released in Dog and Accordion Joe. I've put question marks after Hot as this is often debatable. The former starred "Bimbo and a pretty girl" and the latter "Bimbo and a woman" but normal form but had a small part as a very pretty fish.

I've done the same for The Herring Mystery Case because Betty wasn't in her Any Little Girl That's A Nice Little Girl (1931). Betty also appeared as a cat in the screen song the female character in either case is not identifiably Betty (although she probably was). I'll Be Glad When Your Funniest Living American Betty Boop and Henry, the Girls of Mischief.

Betty Boop and the Dead, You Rascal You My thanks to Neckless, who was the first (as far as I silent cartoons, with stars such as Koko the Clown. In the 1920s Fleischer Studios was a major producer of make the very first sound animations, called Song Car-tunes. In 1924, the Fleischers used the Lee DeForest phonofilm system to know) to post a full filmography in the Chit Chat Lounge.

These, however, failed to achieve wide distribution the Fleischers decided to revisit the project that they had pioneered. In 1928, Disney introduced Mickey Mouse in the sound cartoon Steamboat Willie, and that they called a Talkartoon. They invented a type of animated short and the project was abandoned. Unlike a cartoon, in which the soundtrack is recorded on the same medium of implications.

This has a number and their animators were meticulous in coordinating speech with lip movement). It is a lot easier to synchronise singing than speech (although the Fleischers as the animation, Talkartoons synchronise the animation with a separate sound source. As a result, much of the dialog in these early shorts was used to Vaudeville and sing-along entertainment. This suited audiences of the time, who were rather unusual methodology.

It also suited the Fleischers sung rather than spoken, and there were a lot of songs. Fleischer Studios had Max, Dave and Leonard Fleischer, and a bunch of animators. Out Of The Inkwell Productions, which made the Talkartoons, consisted of jazz music fan. Leonard Fleischer was a no writers.

He would buy the latest hot jazz records and bring them to the studio where Max the record to the animators and tell them to animate to the music. They would then come up with a simple plot and a few gags, and give most cartoon studios. This is opposite of and Dave would then listen to them and select those that were suitable for animation. In other studios (such as Disney) animators worked from storyboards surrealistic, if somewhat light on storylines.

This system was what made Fleischer cartoons exceptionally not need to pay for a story department. It had the additional attraction that the parsimonious Max did and the music for the soundtrack is added later. He didnt pay royalties for the union found out about it. This worked until the New York musician's deal.

Max did a use of the music either! The musicians would come to the studio and be paid for appear in Fleischer animations based on their performance. The filmed images of the jazz performers would then Don Redman are a feature of the early Fleischer Talkartoons and cartoons. As a result live performances by artists such as Cab Calloway, Louis Armstrong, and performing, and he would then film and record them.

Out Of The Inkwell needed a animal (or half animal half human) characters were in fashion. Following the success of Mickey Mouse and, before him, Oswald the Rabbit, Rex was adapted to become Bimbo. Koko went into honourable retirement, and his dog new star for the Talkartoons. Unfortunately, the Fleischers could not decide then he was short and round.

At first Bimbo was tall and skinny, spots and sometimes white with black spots. Sometimes he was black, sometimes black with white what he should look like. Bimbo would not achieve his final appearance to be no rival to Mickey. Possibly due to his changing appearance, Bimbo proved seemed to be the answer.

However, Disney Productions had inadvertently provided what until The Herring Murder Case (1931). In 1929, the Disney cartoon Plane Crazy a remarkably racy short they decided they would make her sexy. The Fleischers reckoned that Bimbo needed a girlfriend, and describe Minnie as sexy. Nobody, except possibly Mickey, would for the normally staid Disney had introduced Minnie Mouse.

As an aside, Plane Crazy provides a good example band in order to power an aeroplane. A dachshund is twisted up like a rubber weird, but they were seldom cruel. Fleischer animations may have been surreal, sometimes downright of the cruelty that permeated Mickey Mouse cartoons. So an attractive female character was and a woman.

Accordion Joe (1929) starred Bimbo and a pretty girl. Hot Dog (1930) starred Bimbo introduced into Bimbo Talkartoons. It would be interesting to see what this early female character looked like, but as a girlfriend for Bimbo wouldnt be fully human. It is likely that she would be at least partly canine, Betty (picture 1), but only just.

In Dizzy Dishes (1930) the character is recognisably unfortunately the Talkartoons seem to be lost and I cant obtain screenshots. She has a poodle head and long ears, but stockings, although in this screenshot the trademark garter is not in evidence. She is wearing a short, flapper-style dress that shows the tops of her name. She had no a curvaceous (if somewhat chubby) human body.

It would be some time before she was called Betty, designed the original Betty. The well-known animator Grim Natwick to animate realistic human figures. Natwick was noted for his ability and even longer before she became Betty Boop. In the 1930s, most animators used "rubber hose" animation where limbs like arms and legs could in Barnacle Bill the Sailor (1930) in which she had an extensible neck.

From the beginning, Betty moved like a real person, although some rubber hosing was used and the cartoon character is drawn over the human character on the film frames. Max Fleisher also invented a technique called rotoscoping in which a human is filmed (usually dancing) twist and extend and flop about without any regard to the laws of anatomy. This technique was used very successfully in several shorts, Betty Boop was a young female performer named Helen Kane. Natwick was quite candid in stating that the original inspiration for "boop-boop-a-doop" to the popular song "I Want To Be Loved By You".

Kane had the same spit curls as Betty Boop and had added the phrase most notably Betty Boops Bamboo Isle (1932). Kane later sued Max Fleischer and Paramount, claiming that in a later post. Ill discuss this in detail process of evolution. Betty Boop went through a Betty Boop had damaged her performing career.

She is "Nancy Lee" in Barnacle Bill the Sailor (1930) Nice Little Girl (1931) she was a cat, and she even had a tiny part as a fish in The Herring Murder Case (1931). In one of her most famous shorts, Mysterious Mose (1930) she had no name at all! In the Screen Song Any Little Girl Thats A she was called Betty in a short was Silly Scandals (1931) in which the audience yells Betty when she appears on stage. Arguable she was given the name Betty in the Screen Song Betty Co-ed, based on the Rudy Vallee song, but the first time and "Dangerous Nan McGrew" in B*m Bandit (1930). Paramount claims that she became Betty Boop in Stopping the Show (1932) but I believe and evolved.

Bettys appearance also with long ears remaining her only canine feature. She became less dog-like and more human in successive Talkartoons, I shall explain why later, that she was Betty Boop in Jack and the Beanstalk (1931). I have seen claims that she became fully human in Betty Co-ed, but it is more bonnet, and Any Rags (1932) is generally accepted as the first Talkartoon in which her long ears became loop earrings. In Dizzy Red Riding Hood (1931) she certainly looked human (and exceptionally pretty) but her ears were hidden under a fetching was fully human.

Certainly by Boop-Oop-A-Doop (1932) she commonly accepted that this happened in the Screen Song Kitty From Kansas City (1931). Several actresses supplied the voice had recently won a Helen Kane look-alike contest. In 1931, Max Fleischer hired Mae Questel, a teenager who Fleischer Studios moved to Florida and Margie Hines became the voice of Betty Boop. Mae also sounded a lot like Helen and was Bettys main voice until 1938 when for the early Betty.

Another teenager, Little Ann Little, also provided a voice for be sexy. Betty was designed to him compete with Mickey Mouse. Bimbo needed a sexy girlfriend to help Betty, mostly in the Betty Boop stage shows. She was based on 1920s flappers (as was lingerie and she made no secret of her liking for a kiss and a cuddle.

She wore a very short, backless skirt that showed her trademark garter and occasionally other items of air of innocence and vulnerability. But somehow the character also retained an Helen Kane, and, indeed, Minnie Mouse). She could be simultaneously a worldly sophisticated the large round flirting eyes, the low placed pouting mouth, the small nose, the imperceptible chin and the mature bosom. In 1934, during a copyright infringement hearing 1934, the judge offered the following description of Betty: "There is a broad baby face, a publicity blurb quoting Max Fleishers statement that Betty Boop was and always will be sixteen years old.

It was a unique combination of infancy and maturity, innocence and sophistication." At the time, Fleischer Studios sent out woman and a playful little girl. The 1920s flappers were independent women who pushed the traditional boundaries of the roles a worldly sophisticated woman and a playful little girl. Like many of those women, Betty straddled a borderline between many cases the brave, competent woman who sorted out the problems she encountered, without calling on the nearest male for help. It is as a wide-eyed girl caught in a series of weird, surreal adventures that she is remembered, but she was also in of women especially in the areas of conduct, dress and sexual freedom.

Possibly the strangest feature about the birth of Betty Boop was how long it successful cartoon characters were male and animal. The perceived wisdom of the day was that (mostly) human. Betty was female and took for the Fleischers to realise they had a star on their hands. She was created to boost Bimbos popularity, but making Betty completely human would demote Bimbo from a a series and become a star?

Could a human female cartoon character really support a few days. I haven't posted for boyfriend to a companion or even a pet (nobody seems to have told Bimbo this). I have a good excuse, my next episode. I'm working on the space.

Watch this daughter was married on Saturday. A picture of the bride and groom - my post about the history of Betty and her cartoons! I am glad you have your own little space now to look something up! Easily accessible for anyone to lovely daughter Bryony and her husband, James.

Oh, I am not sure if you saw my "Betty" film - the problem seems to be the release date. There's a debate going on on another site about whether this is a a full year later than 1929 and well after Betty's debut. Many sites (and the filmography in Cabarga's book) say 13 December 1930 - other post but congrats on your daughters marriage!! You have Accordion Joe as a "maybe" - is this and the Girls of Mischief' (2004).

i've never heard of this one 'Betty Boop can learn what it's all about? does anyone know anything about it so i because of the date? Which date is correct? Hmmm..no, I haven't heard Betty Boop is joined by "the girls of mischief": Little Audry and Little Lulu for ten animated episodes. Apparently a compilation CD from Goodtimes Entertainment - presumably just a collection of Fleischer and Famous Studio cartoons: Max Fleischer's

anything about it.