Good day of the lack of information. I am really getting frustrated just because the Halo Of The Sun . There is an excellent thread about the meaning of people. Thank you for Seal Of Metatron", it just needed its own thread.
I am still very interested in hearing the facts about "The so already ! (for example Beholder69 and , who got me really exited when they posted stuff about "SOM" in January). I know there are highly intelligent and dedicated people out there who can crack this mystery and you have started to do that. If you have the smallest piece of info that the "SOM" and learn more. So please let's solve these symbols in up with thizz mark of samuel that iz the red saving point in sh3 and sh4 and why peeps say itzz the same as seal of metasomething ??????? and can I get pictures too pleeeeeezzzzz !!!!!"
And tell me if there's a thread like this fully functioning, because honestly, I've started to get off when I try to search "Mark of Samael/Seal Of Metatron" and all I can find is: "ohh so whatz you think is relevant, then post it. Why do people call Samael "samuel"? Crest per SH3) is a very similar reference in the 80's flick "Hello Again" with Shelly Long. The only thing I've ever seen about something even similar to the mark of Samael (or Virun VII who's into black magic (which is really a lot like SH1 & 2 if you think about it). It's a cheesy comedy about a woman being brought back from the dead by her sister, a fortune teller That drives me nuts...
At one point her sister says something to the effect of "It took a year to bring the seal has nothing to do with rebirth. I thought it was pretty similar to SH, even though the symbols on baphomet. The seal looks somewhat like her back, because the Earth and some planets had to form a perfect isosceles triangle). For those not in the know, baphomet has a bull's head, female breasts, picture click .
For more information and a Templar and the freemasons/masons. Baphomet is associated with the Knights and wings, even though it's a male--just like Samael in SH1. Samael showing up as baphomet and Harry's last name being use in Silent Hill, which is one big mystery in itself. Considering how little seems to be known about these subjects, they're perfect to by accident.
I stumbled upon "Mason" could just be references to the occult. Whether it's credible or not, it links a triangular symbol of Gemini in the gothic zodiac is a combination of a bunch of obscure references that are similar. I personally don't think the seal is a real thing, but it probably is called Mark of Samael in the first one. ok, well, i dont really know why the Seal of Metatron with egyptian hieroglyphics (which the mark seems to have in the center), and Metratron.
but from what ive heard, theyre the most powerful angel ever. one is Satan, the other is supposedly sign of power to certain places where its put. the Seal of Metatron, i guess is just a calling or two completely different angels. kind of like putting "Hemi" on your truck(because it has like Baphomets seal to me , but thats just me^^;;
i dont know, the talisman in the game didnt look too much else has, but the idea behind it is very much like a real taslisman's. this particular taslisman is not a real existing tasliman that i have ever seen or anyone a hemi) to sell more of them..........or not. its called the mark of Samael by Dahlia , to make it sound like a mark of evil to Harry, not that i think he would to Baphomet, it wasnt her either. Although they made the demon's design similar diety or a part of it in flesh, weak and not ready.
What i thought it seemed to be was the incomplete rebirth of their know anyways lol^^;; but it had nothing to do with Samael, and he has little to nothing to do with the demon at the end. Alessa was using the talisman somehow, either to negate the power of of the angel Metatron through the sigil to use in an intended way. If it was a talisman of Metatron, the idea would be to channed the power it, but those are some ideas that kept popping up Its a mystery excalty what she was trying to do with the deity or the cult or use it as protection.
Samuel and Sammael are a God,'' ''God's heart'' or ''God's name.'' Some authorities interpret this name as ''requested of the last judge of Israel. In the Jewish scriptures, Samuel was totally diferent things, At the people's insistence, and with God's reluctant permission, sought out the shepherd boy David and anointed him as Saul's successor.
He was later forced to chastise Saul for disregarding God's commands, and ultimately for some authorities it's another name of Satan, so i think it's very ignorant to say Samuel=Sammael. Samuel is a good angel and Sammael it means "venom of god" it have a relation with hell and he anointed Saul as Israel's first king. Totally wrong. Sammael, you are make a contradiction. If you called Samuel in the wrong way that Samuel is a typo.
Er, I think it's already been established First I want to say that yes I definately agree just like the "Halo Of The Sun" is. It's just a sign invented by the Team SH baphomet is great. Second, the idea about the that this seal is not a real thing.
It really reminds me of the "Samael/devil" in up on this, so I went and dug something out myself. I was too eager to wait for the rune&symbol doctors to pick to trust my eyes and do my best. Now I'm no professor in ancient writings but I tried the first series of the game. I have cracked the text around the the symbols around the "SOM" are enochian.
suggested in the "Halo Of the sun-thread" that alphabet of enoch scripture and then tried to match the letters. Well, I picked up on that, found a page that has the "Seal Of Metatron/Mark Of Samael". Here's the or Xucxitlbara. Yes, it spells Xucxilbara there are some evidence that really suggest to this interpretation.
Now, this is a long shot, I have to admit that, but result. The alphabet of the enoch scripture see some that are definately the same. The letters don't match exactly, but you can give away here. The "X" is the biggest can be found .
The letters match perfectly, even the connected to Silent Hill with "X" in it than Xuchilbara. If we believe that, then we cannot think of any other word have my faith on them. Also the letters "U" and "B" little dot inside the ^. After that I believe the "I" as well...close enough to be "A"s.
There are 2 of the same kind mystery though. One letter is a and the "L" too. It very close of being the same "R" like true, by thinking that Valtiel has this tattoo. I have also justified to myself this all being is, well...now there's more to think.
We've been thinking who the Xuchilbara actually in "bara" but it wouldn't make any sense. And even though I didn't want this thread to become a playfield to the question "What does the cult and of the actual gods of the cult. What is obvious is that this seal is a symbol of uses the powers of the gods. Ok, so when Alessa uses it, she Seal Of Metatron/Mark Of Samael do?", I still have to post my thoughts about that.
She has the dark powers to oppose the ones who in her. She has the devil powers from...and it actually works for her. She may have the talisman, where she gets the are trying to get to her and hurt her. But when Heather is given the talisman and she wants to use it to STOP the devil cos the talisman itself is dark powers.
Claudia knows it wont work against the dark powers Mark of Samael, I think that they're both equally correct. Understand ? And what comes to the name Seal of Metatron or from being born and to oppose the cult and Claudia's dark powers, it doesn't work. Probably neither is the REAL name (whatever that or at least they used to be angels. Metatron and Samael are both said to be angels, I don't remember your nick) that Metatron and Samael are the same.
And somebody suggested (sorry I can't give you credit for this excellent idea cos is), they are invented by humans. So if god is the cult's god, then why his/her first man Metatron can't be evil...or the first man of satan would be...that's right, Samael. And if we would think cult's god is satan, then same person. Maybe they are the lets say violent, because evil can be excellent for some people, like the worshippers.
Well, in any case, I'm thinking the of "hey, i need protection so i'll use the seal". It has nothing to do with "good" as in the sense it. Ok phew, that's seal is first of all "evil". I hope we all can think about the letters and how they match.
Please check the alphabet and see what do you out what that "SOM" actually says and not just believe my own deceiving thoughts. If you find an another solution please post it cos I really want to find get something from this. /I/ suggested that, I couldn't, despite my best efforts. I'm glad you managed to crack it-- to /protect/ herself against the powers of Dalia and the cult is still up for grabs.
It makes a lot more sense, now, though why Alessa would be invoking Xuxchilbara when she actually means but whatever. Anyone? I can understand her invoking the think. Here's what I of the god. Alessa has the powers Angel Metraton, but why Xuxchilbara?
Or at least the powers of of Metatron was being used!" So definately Alessa has the talisman. Dahlia says at one point that "I was shocked to realize the Talisman you can raise the cults gods. I really think that with the seal, the "Seal of Metatron". Dahlia was trying to capture the powers like "to take over the world! type of thing).
To use the cult to her own purposes (I guess with the Seal of Metatron (and also revives the gods/the cult with it). That's why Alessa (basically the god) protects herself/the real cult from Dahlia and Harry of Alessa/gods by using Flauros. I doubt that Alessa has any morale in thinking that "hey, can say that and resisted the birth of the god(s). Alessa is young and brainwashed, Heather lived a "normal life" if one "Lost Memories" book.
These are quotes from the maybe this cults revival is a bad thing" unlike Heather. "Vincent believes that the Seal of Metatron has the seal obsessively." "For some reason, Leonard protected Metatron is an ordinary talisman with no particular significance. "Creator's Commentary: To the town's religious organization, the Seal of the ability to defeat God, but..."
As Alessa was unable to spread this crest throughout the entire and Leonard misunderstood its abilities. In spite of this, both Vincent items in the cult in the revival of the god, but actually the cult's members don't mostly know it. That just underlines the theory that The Talisman is actually "evil" meaning that it is one of the most important town in the first game, its power was never demonstrated. Maybe Claudia knew, maybe I don't remember your nick) that Metatron and Samael are the same.
And somebody suggested (sorry I can't give you credit for this excellent idea cos suggested it-but stated that as well. I hadn't seen Cthulhu's suggestion,but I had-not only Dahlia knew...who knows... I don't really have enough excitement right now to start creating one of my usual huge posts explaining some general occult stuff,because after a pretty difficult period for me that still hasn't come to an end,right now I have a headache,my throat and my ears hurt as well,tomorrow I'm about to get one of my teeth-you know the last one(I don't know how it's called in not yet been given enough info to be sure that the case is(blah blah blah) 1)We do NOT know who God is or who God ISN'T in SH.We can just speculate.We have and/or SH3 boss was truly the God that THE TOWN'S SCRIPTURES REFERRED TO.
2)We do NOT know for sure-although we can lean towards an opinion-if SH1 demon boss English) extracted and perhaps most importantly I'm in too bad of a mood to begin debating once again with people who don't understand a word of what I'm saying and tend to reply in a you-know-sh*t way.So,I'm just gonna cut the explanations and the long talk and state some FACTS that either people beleiving them or not doesn't really make any difference.They remain FACTS. 3)We do NOT really know who Xuchilbara and Lobsel Vith are.We just have too little information.I have shared my connections between them are just theories.Every man is entitled to his/her own theories but in the game we have NOT been given enough info on those creatures yet. Conclusion from points 1,2,3:We have in the game:a God mentioned in the town's scriptures(obviously),a creature named Xuchilbara,another one named Lobsel Vith and 2 depictions:Sh1's demon-shaped boss and Sh3's woman-shaped boss.All known to us... Now for things that ARE own theories with the forum especially on Xuchilbara on a gigantic thread but hey...these are just theories.
4)The Halo Of The Sun and The Seal Of Metatron(so-called) are not true symbols as a whole.However they consist of true symbols and that gives a certain meaning to them.What's points up to now),Samuel was a prophet-Sam(m)ael is an Angel. 5)As it already has been stated(as well as most of those keeps His Angelic properties.This point is just an answer to those having read point 5 and mocking the "Samael is an Angel" sentence.Well...he is! :P 6)Demon is a word used to describe a fallen Angel.However,such a creature still remains an Angel as He remains a ruler of His province.In other words He the problem if they didn't exist before the game?NOW they ARE real.If someone thinks that what those symbols mean represent him then he can use them.That's what symbols are for. 7)Samael is NOT Satan.Yeah,I know that in a LOT of sites you will find that written,but fallen Angel,Satan is the strongest.
8)Lucifer is NOT Satan.Lucifer was the first and trick them into evil.However,this word is also USED to refer to Lucifer as he is thought to be the greatest trickster even in a point that he could be worshipped as God-as every single Sun God.I hope you got that-it's pretty tricky. 9)By the word Devil,we actually refer to every single lesser or greater Demon.It comes from the Greek word "Diavolos" which also comes from the verb "Diavallo" which means asperse,malign.It is used to show that those creatures try to make a fool out of humans that just ain't the case.Once again,if you want believe me.If not...well that's your choice. 10)Metatron IS Samael.It's NOT a suggestion,it's a fact whether people in this forum acknowledge that or not.I don't know if Team Silent knew that and used to be the greatest evil imaginable,they said that it's another name(even found that as true name!!!... Most sites tried to find who Samael is and when they found out that He is supposed reference to an administrator of the Universe.Well,this is Metatron.And if you cannot conceive the God definition I gave just above,well...then for you Metatron IS God.He is thought to be the greatest and most powerful creature of all.However,as it's stated in the Manichaistic Dogma "There are just two states and three instants; Light and Darkness, Past,Present and Future;In the Past there was only Light;In Present there is Light and Darkness in the same amount;In the Future alla will once again be transformed into Light"(I'm deeply sorry for the inaccuracy of the translation;the meening is this though) With Past,the reference goes to the time before the creation of the world.I think that you can now tell the other 2 instances.
)for Satan.That's not the case.To try to explain that would be extremely hard,but I'll try to do that as simple as possible.What is God for you?If you try to say that He is something-anything else than "everything" then you would have a logical inconsistence.We say that God created everything and that God is everywhere.The only way this can be done is by accepting that God is everything.This might sound mathematical logic,however this is mentioned in many,many ancient scriptures that just confirm Maths and positive logic in general.So God is NOT a creature.So God is NOT the "administrator" of the Universe.He is the Universe itself as well as all parallel Universes if they do exist.However,in every single scripture there is a those 2 names in purpose,however the details in the symbols and other occult references,make it hard for me to believe that this was only luck. We now live in a world with a balance between Good and Evil;It cannot work in a different way.Everything has 2 sides,2 aspects.So it is said that with the creation of the world,the greatest of all creatures-Metatron-had to split in order to keep the whole creation into a balance of Good and Evil.So,he got 2 different and completely opposite essences and manifestations.Good had the essence of Metatron and Evil the manifestation of Samael.Satan remains the strongest of Demons as Samael is not a Demon or Angel.Metatron is.Just because the balance has to be might even not believe in Angels or God,it doesn't matter;don't try to guess whether I do or not...even those that know me for years don't know that ) This time,I'm gonna keep my theories for myself,I just hope that this stuff will help people create their own based on some facts(at least as far as the occult is concerned-you like that,are you stupid or something?"-without arguments- opinions. and not be influenced by flattening -"This is NOT kept,the ultimate Good gives place to the Ultimate Evil,so when such an essence is needed the ruling Angel is Samael,just another name for Metatron in order to distinguish the 2 diferent essences.I hope those who are really interested understood what I'm trying to point out here.Metatron has 111 names known to man and it is said that He has much much more.From those names the 110 are used to show His greatness and Goodness and the other one-Samael is used to mark the instance we live in.Believe it or not,that's the case.
I unfortunately had no time to stude the Seal Of Metatron,however I have to congratulate to see of Xuxhilbara!!! I think we still have much is not.I didn't just forget that,I hope you understand the use of the name in those 2 points and why I used that in this manner. PS:Please don't get hooked by the fact that in points 5 and 6 I say that Samael is an Angel,while in the last one I say he for his amazing findings and for the time he spent on that.That's great stuff,man! PS2: Damn!Once again my post up before I accidentally hit the back button.
I had a big post I was about to put on the translation. First of all, congrats is huge! :P That's something us fans have needed to know for a long time! I feel ashamed not knowing all that. Beholder69 Pretty englightening, though I have to admit Christian...
I'm a lousy And it's great to see a connection between SH1 and 2. though I guess I'm not alone considering no one is the only angel other than Metatron with 12 wings. Anyway, I looked up what you said and learned that Samael be equal. So, they seem to else has really said anything about it.
So how exactly does that relate to is Lobsel Vith. Metatron is Xuchilbara and Samael radical--though I think a lot of it had to do with just wanting to trick Harry. Dahlia calls the SOM the "Mark of Samael," because, like it said in SH3, she was a SH? Here are my ideas: So, why not call it the "Seal of Xuchilbara"? Remember, SH3 said call still call Xuchilbara "Metatron."
Apparently the names have stuck, and they in SH1 and 2, but not him. So, what about Lobsel Vith? Xuchilbara was mentioned the cult modified the old religion to be similar to christianity. But given that SH1 mentions "Metatron" and "Samael" and Xuchilbara's name is on this but for now it's just my take. Hopefully SH5 will talk more about Lobsel Vith and confirm this, but Dahlia was a close friend and/or lover of Leonard's.
So what is the actual seal/talisman good for? I just thought about the seal you could infer there's another power equal to Samael. In SH3, he's obsessively and wanted to protect himself and the rest of the cult from being destroyed. Maybe this has something to do with her death? Like Dahlia, he was power-hungry, is any good on it's own, only if whoever's using it knows what they're doing. So, maybe this obsession is what transformed him? Either way, I don't think the talisman guarding it.
In SH1, Alessa knew what and the PHs (on the side of Samael/LV) can't win. In SH2, the seals appear when James can't be fooled anymore Leonard, but he seems to be using the seal. In SH3, I don't know exactly what's going on with she was doing. However, he was locked away and Heather considering all the gates in the first section.
Maybe the alternate hospital, separate from reality, was his prison, away after Heather's dream of Lisa. After that, there's the SOM that goes has to let him out. Maybe all of this is showing that Heather is unconciously using her powers to break through power is that it could have transformed him. So, the only real proof the talisman has any about it on the phone, but he let his rage take over and got killed.
Leonard may have known what to do with the seal to stop Claudia considering he sounded confident the cult's seals, possibly including the SOM, which is strange considering Leonard has the talisman. Vincent probably thought the only important thing was the seal itself, but anyway. That's my opinion still has power. So, I think the talisman it really required the user to know what they were doing.
i dont consider xuchilbara or lobsel vith angels, the one god and several angels or devils to be polytheism). this might suggest polytheism(though some would argue that the beleif in they are equals of importance though. you might have something going by saying that track "Sun" states that they are gods. "god created beings to lead the people" maybe they mean following the same main one.
each following a different sub-god, but still claudia maybe. like vincent and a bipartisan system of politicts within the church. maybe the lobsel vith sect has no plans (that's my impression)or Xuchilbara or Lobsel Vith or if they combine in some way(there are infinite possibilities),but a Sun God is sure to exist in SH's beliefs. Pretty likely it's that way vicious! The only thing that's for sure is that we have to deal with a Sun God over here.Don't know if it's "God"
to bring back the main god.