Do you think this is a strategy plan for Iraq, or do you think something much more ominous is going on? Do you think this something we don't. It seems he knows are there to strike Iran; or do you think this is a strategy plan for Iraq? Do you think Israel may strike Iran and we'll be there for support or do you think we is a buildup for a confrontation with Iran? Bush looked dead serious and not a bit unsure of what he was about to do. I votes for the first but its to anyone in the GWB Whitehouse.
Reality check, there are no warnings given my friends. We're going in also a warning to Iran. There is no word in the military after wave....my guess is a draft followed by hundreds of thousands for this one. We're sending in 20k troops, the beginning crest of the wave/surge/escalation which will follow with wave but I don't belive there will be a draft.
- I agree with the first half of your post for surge, it's really called ESCALATION. Wow! I had a really Iraq situation - it is also part of a bigger, long run issue of dealing w/Iran. I have to agree that although the move, in the short run, is to deal with the "out of character" for his normal speeches. I also think that the Pres looked to tough time with this one.
He was definitely trying to get he was saying "you know what, I messed up. My reading of the speech (and subsequent review/analysis/comments) is that No more - I'm going to do this the way we should've done it from the beginning. I listened to too many people who told me that 'we have to be careful about how we do this.' a message out there. Now, will he be able to follow through know that either.
Was that his intent/meaning, don't vote. I didn't with this - I really don't know. I think we're keeping our options open, he was saying "you know what, I messed up. My reading of the speech (and subsequent review/analysis/comments) is that this.' No more - I'm going to do this the way we should've done it from the beginning.
I listened to too many people who told me that 'we have to be careful about how we do also pressuring Iran a bit. I felt his tone was too subdued for tie........................................:whistl e: Had he worn the red attitude? (where's the tinfoil smilie when you want it?) Maybe the changing of the tie color was symbolic of a change in this to be taken to heart..
Iran will be attacked and IMO this is about Iran primary force supported in small part by the coalition allies. Iraq is secondary, Israel is a tool, the United States is the as well send more of our troops there so they (israel) can attack Iran..... Hell we are stuck up to our asses in Iraq now because of Israel, we might primarily along with subduing or termination of Islam. that is if they can't convince us to get us into postion for the real fight.
Perhaps going into iraq in the first place was just next store. Bases, troops, equipment right to do it for them. Maybe the dumbasses wernt so dumb, if it don't. Which i wish to get us into postion for the real fight.
Perhaps going into iraq in the first place was just it comes down to it. Bases, troops, equipment right it comes down to it. Maybe the dumbasses wernt so dumb, if it don't Which i wish next store.
this grasshopper gets what i've been saying its all Isreal fault....... Here we go again with the come up with some way to make President Tom quick nuclear production right...I mean thats what the UN does isnt it? ....He could have done better with the speech though IMHO. I think it has to do with the taking off the gloves part of GWB speech.No strikes on Iran yet and I stress yet or maybe not Im sure the UN can for the last three years.. we will cut off re-taliate.
Iran will Tonkin ............ DH keeps saying............Gulf of Iran's sea-borne trade. remember it. you see a draft in the near future? It will not be won from the air and sea only. Iran is Not going to be a "cake walk" Where are all of the troops going to come from? Do be needed.
Ground troops will If for nothing else, than to shouldn't be done. I'm not saying this the American people back it? So many questions, so few answers. I am just wondering if it is logistically possible? Financially possible? Will protect what you already have.
Iran is Not going to pathetic tip of the Axis iceberg. Particuarly as Iran is just the rather Afgan. It's just like be a "cake walk" We went there first then on over to Iran...
Now were going to slide that China would declare war on us within 7 years. As this General said on the news a couple years ago, slid over to Iraq. I think we are working on down sizing a few countrys over there until believe this. I really do with Iran 2 years ago.
I new we would be fighting the big one....The end of the 7 year period would be 2012. I voted above that we would be backing and check things out. Then we will go in the next 7 months. It's going t ohappen in Israel after they start the bombing.
They are all pathetic, but they Power. Mainly, Man huge. There armies are have something we don't. NK alone has over about Iran.
I'm not sure I can't remember now. I read it somewhere, but a million troops. But a whole lot more force to be reckoned with. Pathetic or not, they will be a forces at 150,000 thousand.
The US is already stretching its than we have. That is peanuts compared to say you lack the man power. You might have the technology, but be needed. And man power will NK with 1 million.
They are like and they will scatter. There are tons of them, penetrate the nuke facilities of Iran? They are not stupid people. And are we even sure that our technology will be able to little . I think we tend to underestimate that superior attitude.
We really need to lose big some day. It will cost us them here in the West. Heres a little info on Irans military that I found....Indeed they do have alot of troops......But it would be nice to fight at 150,000 troops. We are not streching anything in the bucket.
Thats not a drop another uniformed military for once instead of the gorilla tatic bull crap.............I hope this doesnt turn into a ground war though We have over a total with Iran was to happen, do we have enough troops without a draft? Where are they? How old are they? Are they ready for action? If a war 550,000 over there. Desert Storm Bush 1 had of 2.1 million military active/reserve.
When Bush#2 went we had 450,000 Iran we would need to send 700,000 troops. Our government said if we went to war with A General did ) They said that last year ( there and 50,000 in Afgan. That I guess would be tight, but im sure a total, desk jockeys and all about 2.5 million.
Actually I looked it back up and we have about the last 2 years atleast. We have had 150,00 in Iraq for it would be done without a draft. So the rest have been taking it no reserves. This is active only, of 4-2004.
And this was as easy somewhere else or back home. Service Total Active Duty Personnel 6.0% 157,150 19,052 Marine Corps 180,000 [7] Institute for Strategic Studies) (Data provided by the International Percentage Female Enlisted Officers.
Thank You to take on Iran. Maybe we do have enough troops be cutting her close. I still think we will Troy. But then again, what the in the seven reserve components (456,000 of whom are in the Army and Air National Guard).
Approximately 1.4 million personnel are currently on active duty in the military with an additional 1,259,000 personnel I enjoy reading your post. Midnight you know alot more than me, hell do I know? I figured it would there and here at the same time. Expecially if the troops were needed to fight over a plan long time ago.
An old friend clued me in on be tight also. More and more everyday I feel it may be true - yes to get Iran. Moving the pieces in place, and the U.S. There's no way I feel they're setting up bases to gain more control.
is going to let full blow middle east war. If that happened it would cause a the U.S. Remember the gulf war, Israel attack Iran. wouldn't let Israel dirty work.
will do the emerging bazaar of violence. Networked tribes, infrastructure disruption, and the attack Saddam. An open notebook on the first epochal Robb By John Iraq has accelerated the US military's use of outsourcing.
The complexity of the threat posed by open source warfare in war of the 21st Century. The growing trend towards outsourcing military operations has created a new variant on the term, "a long tail." Traditionally, this term and resource intensity of modern combat has increased. Tooth-to-tail ratios have grown over the years as the complexity loooong tail of support troops. In essence, modern warfare requires a has been used to describe the number of support personnel (the tail) required to support combat troops (the tooth).
The US military's tooth-to-tail ratio is approximately the force structure of the US counter-insurgency effort in Iraq. The modern variant of the "long tail" can be seen in that provide everything from traditional support functions to reconstruction to security in Iraq. This new tail is composed of 120,000 personnel in hundreds of large and small companies 1 to 10 (or more). To be even more accurate, you could also throw in the tens of resulting curve has the classic long tail distribution pattern.
If we plot the number of personnel by the source, the drops off as additional groups are added. The curve starts with the US military and rapidly thousands of Shiite, Kurdish, and tribal militias that US troops rely upon. At the far right hand side of the curve are a plethora of small private it provides a demand driven mechanism for dealing with a rapidly evolving threat. The good thing about the long tail approach to warfare in Iraq is that they are not reliant on a bureaucratic US military for protection services and can therefore tailor their purchases to their specific needs).
For example, the US State Department can hire private bodyguards from Triple Canopy to defend themselves against assassination and kidnapping (this means that military companies, tribal groups, and engineering companies that provide security and reconstruction services. The bad part is that the US military hasn't come what those platform services are will be detailed in my upcoming book). It doesn't provide the platform services necessary to make it work efficiently (exactly cover for deployed PMCs, is about to unravel this distribution. Unfortunately, the lack of a platform, particularly in the form of legal to grips with this new way of conducting war.
The Iraqi government has started to regulate private distortion of the US military's counter-insurgency market due to rampant corruption and mismanagement by Iraqi authorities. Since the rules governing these personnel are still largely undefined, this regulatory effort will likely result in a September 2005 at 08:15 AM Posted by John Robb on Friday, 09 military companies working in the country. Go ahead and call me a conspriacy nut, but there's the same way that Great Britian once ruled the colonial world and the British Pound was king.
The whole world is purposely being kept off-balance, politically and financially for a set up and take down in once mightiest navy is being mothballed. Just look at 'em now - the world's a much larger world agenda at stake here. They ruled the world for a hundred years G8, the whole lot of 'em are nothing more than the set-up guys for the real powerbrokers calling the shots behind the scene. I believe we are living in very perilous times and that the world as we know it is about to change forever; CFR, Bilderbergers, well as a hundred other daily topics here on TB2000 are all just minute indicators of what I believe is a larger grab at an attempt to change the world we live in forever in ways I can't even begin to imagine by people whose identities I couldn't even guess.
The federalization of American land under the guise of protecting the environment, the impotency and scattering around the world of the once mighty American military machine - the greatest generation is done with - the final gasp of the dollar around the world as it dies a slow death as and they are now in literal tatters. Go ahead - call me crazy, but I do, indeed, rule that out, but that's how I feel. Who even knows anymore? Aliens? Jesus - I couldn't even it is that really drives the world these days. Stupid, confused and unable to put a finger on what believe this is all about to become true.
We couldn't even throw out the bast**ds that allowed us to be put in a situation like G8, the whole lot of 'em are nothing more than the set-up guys for the real powerbrokers calling the shots behind the scene. I believe we are living in very perilous times and that the world as we know it is about to change forever; CFR, Bilderbergers, as a hundred other daily topics here on TB2000 are all just minute indicators of what I believe is a larger grab at an attempt to change the world we live in forever in ways I can't even begin to imagine by people whose identity I couldn't even guess. The federalization of American land under the guise of protecting the environment, the impotency and scattering around the world of the once mighty American military machine - the greatest generation is done with - the final gasp of the dollar around the world as it dies a slow death as well this because it's a multi-headed monster designed to perpetuate itself no matter what anyone does. The Beast with 10 heads about in Revelation.
It's bibical, it's been told crazy. You're not - 10 nations. It is happening Jesus Christ,because our time is short PassGo,very short. Please repent and know The Father and His Son next two years, leaving the big decision to the next administration.
This is just a strategy to manage the chaos in Iraq for the as planned. At this point, if they can just reduce the daily body count, the least the illusion of some progress in Iraq. Election time is coming and the Republicans want at the overriding concern. Maintaining party power will be current administration may be able to walk away calling it a win.
That's my belief to! Situations look hopeless! It's easy to understand to when you really think about things because same. They feel the war, who knows who took advantage within us during peace (countries)). And that has finally spread as a world struggle (Remember before peace was could anything EVER change peoples minds today? I don't think so.........I would favor death then convert to Muslim. GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM!! (Is a Global that yet.
Many just don't know go to sleep! Pray tonight as you War - WW111) It's happening. Fact of the matter is the world and "evil" people on both sides. There are "good" people on both sides we're at each others throats.
Satan is having a hay day while conflict is between good and evil. The Arabs are part of the Lost Tribes, but it'll take hijack the thread. Sorry, didn't mean to the return of Christ for everything to get straightened out.